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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  @JWleaks: awesome! Lol!
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  Today the two elders did not appear to declare at prosecutor's citation

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. scandals

  today the two elders who stalked my sister were absent at the prosecutor's citation.

  they were waited for 1 hour, but they did not come.

  this attitude favors their culpability.

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  Wow charming, an anonymous caller. Might as well have been any witness who knew about her court case.

  But it shows how afraid this cult is of courts whenever they are not battling for the 'freedom of religion' they deny their own members.

  Hope your sister is really free now!
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  @snugglebunny,

  No, they just mean to say that perfectly happy non-hetero couples should be willing to divorce and be miserable single forever to please big J.

  You know, that guy that hates divorce...
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  Anders Andersen

  Today I regret that I have not actively told my coworkers I left this cult a little less than a year ago.

  They probably assume I agree with the message in the video. Well, to be fair, I did for decades. Karma is a bitch :-p
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  New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

  disgusting!.

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  Anders Andersen

  The LGBT community in my country is outraged, and they are on every national news outlet. Yeah.

  At national Dutch radio they just mentioned this in the news summary, included an audio fragment from the video.

  http://www.coc.nl/geloof-cultuur/harteloos-en-schadelijk-kinderfilmpje-van-jehovas-getuigen
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  Old books!

  by arwen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found some old books of my ex.

  any suggestions??

  is it worth ebay?

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  Which titles?
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  Awake no.3 praises Dr. Semmelweiss for discovering disease-causing germs

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in awake!

  3 2016, an article on dr. semmelweis states:.

  semmelweis was eventually recognized as one of the fathers of the modern antiseptic technique.

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  In Awake! no. 3 2016, an article on Dr. Semmelweis states:

  Semmelweis was eventually recognized as one of the fathers of the modern antiseptic technique. His work helped to establish that microscopic matter can cause disease. He is part of the history of the germ theory of disease, which has been called “the single most important contribution to medical science and practice.” Interestingly, over 3,000 years earlier, the Mosaic Law, which was later included in the Bible, had already provided sound guidance on the proper handling of corpses.

  So, due credits to Dr. Semmelweis for playing a very important role in finding out about the germ theory of disease.
  Credits also to the Bronze Age guys who realized dead bodies can make you sick.
  
  Not so much credit to Jehovah's Witnesses though.

  • 3000 years ago, Bronze Age dudes say: "touching dead bodies can make you sick"
  • 1846, Semmelweis is laying the foundation for germ theory of disease.
  • 1931, Golden Age states in an article 'Germs - The Modern Superstition':
    "Germ theory has never been proven. And it cannot be proven either. [..]
    Germs do not cause disease as the most of you people have been led to believe."
    
    http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/archive/en/GoldenAge/g1931.pdf p.404
    
    Yes, Golden Age, always brimful of sound advice and sane ideas
    
    

  
  

  Awake! no.3 also states:
  

  Unfortunately, the importance of his [Semmelweis's] findings was not recognized until some years later. In the meantime, countless lives that could have been saved were tragically lost.

  One could wonder what Jehovah's Witnesses contributed.
  Did they help save lives? Or did they spread dangerous ignorance?
  
  

  As per their own admission, at least one of their more important figures ended up in jail for practising medicine without a license:
  

  
  

  
  From another 1931 Golden Age article, written by a chiropractor as well, it becomes clear that at that time in history, chiropractors rejected modern medicine, and claimed any disease could be solved by their methods. No wonder they were thrown in jail.
  
  But even if their methods were far superior, true Christians wouldn't break the law by illegally practising medicine, would they?

  Anyway, reading through 1931 Golden Age issues, the most ridiculous ideas with regards to your health pop up.

  Lesson learned?
  Don't trust Jehovah's Witness religion with your health!

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  When you were really "in", did you have a pet idea that would steer wt into divine favor?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt writers ( klein) admitted at one time, that his majesty's doctrinal ship was zigzagging to find the right course, and many of us believed, that if we accepted the bible as true, cleaning up the teachings would establish the right bearing.

  so: did you have a hobby-horse idea you were riding?

  writing to brooklyn perhaps?

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  With regards for my lost child: I know about the mechanics. I now also know that up to 50% of all fertilized eggs are miscarried, most of them without the woman even knowing they were (about to be) pregnant. 'Fortunately' for us our miscarriage was very early in the pregnancy, however as it was our first we were very happy and in anticipation of the joy ahead. Regardless we would welcome a 're-implant' or ressurection or whatever. Again: as many opinions as people believing that 'extended talking snake tale' (lol @ that)

  @elbib,
  What they said about the blind man refusing operation can be understood as:
  

  We (the JW leaders) are medical staff and know best. Your are (spiritually) blind. Obey us. Trust us. Don't ask questions. You have nothing to lose, because if we're wrong everyone is wrong, and you're blind anyway.

  It's a false dichotomy, and I think it's more haughty and condescending than profound ;-)
  
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  Top Five Misconceptions about Evolution

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  very handy little article that might clear up some muddle...

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  Anders Andersen

  I understand and accept all the facts that prove the evolution worthy of being called a scientific theory.
  But I find the infogram somewhat confusing. If I weren't on board yet, it wouldn't help me at all I think.

  Sorry :-p
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  When you were really "in", did you have a pet idea that would steer wt into divine favor?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt writers ( klein) admitted at one time, that his majesty's doctrinal ship was zigzagging to find the right course, and many of us believed, that if we accepted the bible as true, cleaning up the teachings would establish the right bearing.

  so: did you have a hobby-horse idea you were riding?

  writing to brooklyn perhaps?

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  Anders Andersen

  At two separete occasions single (divorced) sisters (one older, one younger) engaged me in a conversation about how they feared to end up all alone in Paradise.

  Both were told by some nutcase JWs that 'in paradise nobody gets married anymore. So if you're single at Armageddon, you're single forever.' Thanks for making them feel better, @55hole!

  Anyway, I told both of them that WT reasoning on this topic didn't make sense, and Jesus clearly referred to those with a heavenly calling only when he said they wouldn't get married but 'be like angels'.

  Not long after we got some 'new light' saying we shouldn't be dogmatic on this point. Probably GB were getting tired of all the single sister writing letters to inquire about their paradise prospects to get lai....eh married.

  Another topic was: will we see children that never made it because of a miscarriage in ressurection? WT said no, I said yes, no reason to think otherwise. WT also changed their position on that.

  But so did I. That's the one thing I don't like about having discovered that the whole God/Bible thing doesn't make sense: I won't live forever with my wife and daughter. I will never get to see and hold my first child who unfotunately was never born. I won't see my father again.

  But then again: if something "appears too good to betrue, it usually is. Don’t be quick to believe advertising claims and testimonials, thinking, “This is different.”"